martial art? absolutely. fighting art?

What struck me as interesting in this video was the part about how “effective” Drunken Style Wu Shu is.

Its my opinion that having to put on “an act” while fighting violates every principle of KISS that I have ever known. And when you really look at Wu Shu, just how different is it from Capoeira in its stylistic foundations? Capoeira at least has the element of randomness going for it. Here almost everything is scripted.

As I have stated in previous posts, one cannot deny the athletic skills of these people. The proof is there for all to see. It is definitely “art” and it is obviously “martial” in its form, but does “martial art” always equal “fighting skill”?


6 thoughts on “martial art? absolutely. fighting art?”

  1. There has been this trope that some movies use to get a laugh. Kids that spend all their time on shoot-em-up video games manage to kick some butt when the zombies show up for real.

    Speaking as a firearms instructor, I can say that there actually is something to this.

    Oh, the video warriors learn some bad habits. Reloads are really tough for them because all they ever had to do in the past was just shoot off screen to freshen up their ammo supply. They have to be constantly reminded of the 4 rules for safe gun handling if they ever start to use the real thing. And the noise can be something of a shock for the little dears.

    But they do know how to acquire a sight picture, squeeze off a round without shaking the gun while doing so, and they even know the value of cover. They have to be taught the basics so they don’t shoot me or themselves, but after that they advance very rapidly.

    Seems to me that the wushu guys have climbed in to a familiar boat. They are in shape, athletic, and know the basics of throwing a punch or kick. As long as they don’t get too fancy, they should be alright.


  2. ‘…does “martial art” always equal “fighting skill”?’

    This is a great question. Shouldn’t martial arts equate to fighting skills? If the point was athleticism then what difference are martial arts from gymnastics? “Martial” implies more than just moving the body while flailing about with arms, legs, and the occasional tool. The “art” in martial art shouldn’t be about the external display of punching and kicking but by the internalization of the “martial aspects”. That to me implies at least the concepts of properly applying the techniques in a martial context. Otherwise, to me it’s more a movement art than a martial art. And some movement arts are really nifty. Here is another video on “martial arts” applied as movement art (notice the labels!)You migth have to cut and paste this into your browser.

  3. I am not sure what they meant by “effective” but they surely can’t mean in a self defense situation.

    Like Capoeira, Wushu looks to be very athletic, and good for your flexibility. As far as self defense or ringsport, there looks to me little to be of any use with either art.

    Not saying that the art isn’t good. Also not saying that people are not enjoying themselves practicing those arts. Lets just hope they don’t fool themselves into believing that they have something that they can use to defend themselves.

    The one tool they do get by practicing these arts is being in shape, and that is worth a lot.

  4. I may be ignorant in my knowledge of the Chinese arts but I was always under the impression that Wushu was a Chinese state regulated/sponsored sport version of the self defense arts which are known collectively as kung fu. This wiki has some more information.

    I don’t think a relation should be made between the Drunken routines in sport Wushu and the traditional Zui Quan self defense art termed “Drunken Style”.

  5. Edit:
    “I don’t think a relation should be made between the Drunken routines in sport Wushu and the traditional Zui Quan self defense art termed “Drunken Style”.

    That is to say, the wushu version is not the same thing. Obviously there is a direct relationship but one is not the other. Need more coffee.

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